h1techSlave
09-22 10:17 PM
No, we are not going to abuse this and we won't be sending stuff over and over. But stoppers have a very Specific significance: to educate and differentiate between legal and illegal. A stopper says "Stop the reverse brain drain"...A stopper would pique people's interest becase we are typically lumped in with illegals, and a stopper does not exemplify what illegals are. Illegal immigration's message is: "legalize us and help new guest workers come", our stopper says "We are already legal and are already leaving, fix this before we all leave"
Actually, many Indians with US Citizenship are leaving too. What I have seen with my friends and coworkers is that, the moment they receive the US passport they book a flight to India and come back when ever they please. If media picks up that fact, then what is our strategy?
Actually, many Indians with US Citizenship are leaving too. What I have seen with my friends and coworkers is that, the moment they receive the US passport they book a flight to India and come back when ever they please. If media picks up that fact, then what is our strategy?
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hopefulgc
04-02 06:40 PM
i don't think the monkey who is employed to pick out the visa bulletin that way way will be too excited about this proposition. Proceed only if you wish to incur his wrath :D:D:D:D
Maybe we need to make up a set of cards with priority dates for each EB category and have a parrot pick it up.
I think we may be able to predict much better that way. :D
Maybe we need to make up a set of cards with priority dates for each EB category and have a parrot pick it up.
I think we may be able to predict much better that way. :D
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kartikiran
07-01 11:03 AM
Do you really agree with multi-national managers(via L1A). This is the area wherein the interpretation is pretty loose. If you dissect EB1 data you would find that EB1C used bulk of it except for this year due to bad economy and tightening of screws. There should be some very clearly defined guidelines for EB1-C, somebody being an onsite coordinator or managing 5 people should not be eligible. This category should be reserved for those who are managing at least 100 people or control business in several millions. I agree that EB1 should be just for the exceptional.
teddy the pun "multi-national managers(via L1A)" was intended. if that makes it clear.
anyway, the focus of this thread was about the president's immigration speech. Atleast the speech included the fact that illegal immigration makes a mockery of legal immigration. understood that any solution also must include finding a way on how to handle the undocumented people.
anyway, the speech for now might be just a start or more "kick in the butt" to let the congress know that they need to start work in CIR. when it comes to fruition is anybody's guess.
teddy the pun "multi-national managers(via L1A)" was intended. if that makes it clear.
anyway, the focus of this thread was about the president's immigration speech. Atleast the speech included the fact that illegal immigration makes a mockery of legal immigration. understood that any solution also must include finding a way on how to handle the undocumented people.
anyway, the speech for now might be just a start or more "kick in the butt" to let the congress know that they need to start work in CIR. when it comes to fruition is anybody's guess.
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06-18 03:08 PM
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05-22 04:27 PM
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dish
10-15 07:28 PM
Do you really need a Green Card, Permanently reside in United States and eventually become a U.S Citizen ?
Or
If the H1B Visa allows you to work here for 20 years, if spouse can work on H4 visa, you can get in-state tuition for studying, and you can claim the money you contributed to Social Security anytime you decide to leave this Country --- WILL You be in the LINE for Green Card ?
We all came here looking for greener pastures. But How many of you think this Country and this Culture is great ? Now think about the Economic Growth - The US is still the most competitive but they are not the Number One anymore.
In my case I am in the GC Queue, for spouse work permit and better job prospects...get promoted, can change employer etc. And Ofcourse make money...But eventually, say 10 or 15 years here then I want to move back to my home land. So I had to apply for GC so that I can stay for few more years here.
But on the darker Side I am tied to my employer, cannot change jobs, and no promotions literally Zero growth on career.
Most H1B holders get very good offers when they move back to their home countris after say 10 years. But the H4 spouse who spent al these years rotting in the USA again have to continue rotting....Their prospects are dim. So I want to get my GC. Let my spouse work here for couple of years and move back to my Own country.
If the H1B visa was not as restrictive I would not have applied for a Green Card. I would have never been tied to a specific Employer. I would have gotten Promotions. I would have had better career satisfaction and more savings If my spouse too were working.....
So why not H1b made more HUMANE ?;) ;) ;)
Or
If the H1B Visa allows you to work here for 20 years, if spouse can work on H4 visa, you can get in-state tuition for studying, and you can claim the money you contributed to Social Security anytime you decide to leave this Country --- WILL You be in the LINE for Green Card ?
We all came here looking for greener pastures. But How many of you think this Country and this Culture is great ? Now think about the Economic Growth - The US is still the most competitive but they are not the Number One anymore.
In my case I am in the GC Queue, for spouse work permit and better job prospects...get promoted, can change employer etc. And Ofcourse make money...But eventually, say 10 or 15 years here then I want to move back to my home land. So I had to apply for GC so that I can stay for few more years here.
But on the darker Side I am tied to my employer, cannot change jobs, and no promotions literally Zero growth on career.
Most H1B holders get very good offers when they move back to their home countris after say 10 years. But the H4 spouse who spent al these years rotting in the USA again have to continue rotting....Their prospects are dim. So I want to get my GC. Let my spouse work here for couple of years and move back to my Own country.
If the H1B visa was not as restrictive I would not have applied for a Green Card. I would have never been tied to a specific Employer. I would have gotten Promotions. I would have had better career satisfaction and more savings If my spouse too were working.....
So why not H1b made more HUMANE ?;) ;) ;)
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03-27 11:07 AM
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Cabal, we will get to you soon.
Maverick, would you happen to know if the firm's folks are stuck or were they stuck earlier? We need someone who is affected by the red tape currently!
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ca_immigrant
01-13 01:53 PM
Thanks God there is atleast some movement....there might be a few folks out there that are happy !! (I am not anywhere close yet !)
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09-22 12:20 PM
I agree that asking for complicated changes is a pain. But after meeting the lawmakers, I realized that this is the BEST way. Even the lawmakers agree and attest to this.
You are doing a reality check without even being there. Which, let's face it, is not really a reality check. It is more of your opinion and assumption.
Lets also not confuse facts vs opinions. The fact is that meeting lawmakers and educating them about our point of view is the key to this whole GC mess.
Let me ask you a simple question. What CAN be the "perceived benefit" from a rally like this that would make you think that it would be worth attending? Is it something like a guarantee for a GC in 2 months or a bill that passes next month that does everything we legals want? What is it?
Bringing attention to lawmakers about our plight. Bringing the issue right up to the Capitol. Bringing the issue up for even discussion in the various immigration meetings that are held every other day. Are these benefits not important enough for you?
appreciate your comments - but as i said in my post clearly that I accept the probability that my views are wrong.....
""on the other hand if one day it so transpires that this rally was the historic starting point of major immigration reforms triggered by a group of pioneering individuals - i would have no choice but to eat my words and hang my head in shame that i did not attend.............""
But look at it this way......i already have my GC but i share the pain and frustration of folks who do not..if a 7 month wait process for me was frustrating - i can understand what a 7 year process would be to others like me....if people who are waiting saw the utility of the rally....there would have been more than 2,000 in DC.........but clearly they did not.......i was willing to give it a shot - but unfortunately could not and did not want to specifically postpone something else to make it to DC.......
People have been quoting Gandhi and his South Africa protests.........those were different times and different issues.........colonialism, racial discrimination etc.......if the american govt is non-responsive to the demand from 60% of its own citizens to withdraw from Iraq - how can we realistically expect it to react with super haste to our requests....besides gandhi had the courage to stand up to police brutality, get arrested etc.....in today's days and age - as white collared professionals - do we have the guts and will to do that? For example - we cannot even strike (non cooperation/ civil disobedience movement)....because we get paid by our respective private sector employers.....and our grudge is against the Govt - who do we strike against......?? and if we do strike or court arrest or adopt other forms of civil protest and by chance run up a police record in the process.......who would employ us in the future...in Gandhi's days - they did not have electronic background checks......!!
Another take - if US can have an endless source of temporary workers coming in, paying into income tax and social security taxes and medicare taxes for a few years......and going back without claiming a single dime of social benefits......its the best possible situation for US....a forever young, qualified, minimum wages (i.e prevailing wages) earning tax paying transient population supporting/ subsidizing an archaic and otherwise struggling social security and healthcare system.
another point people have been harping on (apologies for bringing this up but this is my only pet peeve amongst all the other wise great things that happen on this forum).......america's competitiveness and risk of reverse brain drain........personally - i think most people dont care two hoots about these issues - these messages and slogans are not out of a new found love for america but to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC. Are we here to improve america's competitiveness (if that was the primary purpose of our coming here - shame on us for not staying back and improving our respective motherlands' competitiveness) or our own future - if the latter - lets call a spade a spade.........
so - whats the "so what" from my post? is it to critique what IV is doing - no! The "so what" is - unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!
just to take the "popular" Gandhian analogy a step further......There was Home Rule League and Congress in existence in India for a long time.....their objective was to petition the British Govt for small changes........and their ultimate goal was to get dominion status for india......only when Gandhi came on board plus supporters of other proactive forms of protest.....like Subhash Bose.....Tilak etc and the armed freedom struggle started (Bhagat Singh, Azad et al)......did Congress wake up and ask for "purna swaraj" (complete independence).......so from 1885 (founding of congress) to 1930 (Lahore Session of Congress when purna swaraj declaration was made) - nothing happened......british empire went from strength to strength.......then in 17 years - India got independence.......
pl think about what i wrote objectively......and dont jump on me just because i am playing devil's advocate
You are doing a reality check without even being there. Which, let's face it, is not really a reality check. It is more of your opinion and assumption.
Lets also not confuse facts vs opinions. The fact is that meeting lawmakers and educating them about our point of view is the key to this whole GC mess.
Let me ask you a simple question. What CAN be the "perceived benefit" from a rally like this that would make you think that it would be worth attending? Is it something like a guarantee for a GC in 2 months or a bill that passes next month that does everything we legals want? What is it?
Bringing attention to lawmakers about our plight. Bringing the issue right up to the Capitol. Bringing the issue up for even discussion in the various immigration meetings that are held every other day. Are these benefits not important enough for you?
appreciate your comments - but as i said in my post clearly that I accept the probability that my views are wrong.....
""on the other hand if one day it so transpires that this rally was the historic starting point of major immigration reforms triggered by a group of pioneering individuals - i would have no choice but to eat my words and hang my head in shame that i did not attend.............""
But look at it this way......i already have my GC but i share the pain and frustration of folks who do not..if a 7 month wait process for me was frustrating - i can understand what a 7 year process would be to others like me....if people who are waiting saw the utility of the rally....there would have been more than 2,000 in DC.........but clearly they did not.......i was willing to give it a shot - but unfortunately could not and did not want to specifically postpone something else to make it to DC.......
People have been quoting Gandhi and his South Africa protests.........those were different times and different issues.........colonialism, racial discrimination etc.......if the american govt is non-responsive to the demand from 60% of its own citizens to withdraw from Iraq - how can we realistically expect it to react with super haste to our requests....besides gandhi had the courage to stand up to police brutality, get arrested etc.....in today's days and age - as white collared professionals - do we have the guts and will to do that? For example - we cannot even strike (non cooperation/ civil disobedience movement)....because we get paid by our respective private sector employers.....and our grudge is against the Govt - who do we strike against......?? and if we do strike or court arrest or adopt other forms of civil protest and by chance run up a police record in the process.......who would employ us in the future...in Gandhi's days - they did not have electronic background checks......!!
Another take - if US can have an endless source of temporary workers coming in, paying into income tax and social security taxes and medicare taxes for a few years......and going back without claiming a single dime of social benefits......its the best possible situation for US....a forever young, qualified, minimum wages (i.e prevailing wages) earning tax paying transient population supporting/ subsidizing an archaic and otherwise struggling social security and healthcare system.
another point people have been harping on (apologies for bringing this up but this is my only pet peeve amongst all the other wise great things that happen on this forum).......america's competitiveness and risk of reverse brain drain........personally - i think most people dont care two hoots about these issues - these messages and slogans are not out of a new found love for america but to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC. Are we here to improve america's competitiveness (if that was the primary purpose of our coming here - shame on us for not staying back and improving our respective motherlands' competitiveness) or our own future - if the latter - lets call a spade a spade.........
so - whats the "so what" from my post? is it to critique what IV is doing - no! The "so what" is - unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!
just to take the "popular" Gandhian analogy a step further......There was Home Rule League and Congress in existence in India for a long time.....their objective was to petition the British Govt for small changes........and their ultimate goal was to get dominion status for india......only when Gandhi came on board plus supporters of other proactive forms of protest.....like Subhash Bose.....Tilak etc and the armed freedom struggle started (Bhagat Singh, Azad et al)......did Congress wake up and ask for "purna swaraj" (complete independence).......so from 1885 (founding of congress) to 1930 (Lahore Session of Congress when purna swaraj declaration was made) - nothing happened......british empire went from strength to strength.......then in 17 years - India got independence.......
pl think about what i wrote objectively......and dont jump on me just because i am playing devil's advocate
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pappu
10-12 01:35 PM
great work everyone. thank you nycgal and others that took initiative and pushed this effort further. committed members like all of you in this thread help us a lot by sending emails to reporters. several letters highlighting a particular issue generates interest in reporters and media orgs and they choose to write about us. It is not easy to get even a single article published in newspapers and it is due to the efforts of our members, we are able to generate awareness. There is still a long road ahead of us and I am sure with active participation from everyone, we will surely succeed.
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JazzByTheBay
09-22 08:47 PM
Together we can come up with some bright ones - any input from you?
Also note, the flower campaign was dubbed stupid and insane by many before it started working and getting media attention, and eventually proved to be a brilliant idea! So let's keep our mind open to ideas.
jazz
>>>>-sending more flowers
please.. enough of flowers..
>>>>-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
Now you have seen what goes and does not go into a rally. This is a complicated task so it has to be planned, as was the DC one.
>>>-candlelight vigil at congress
This will work if high school students do it. not "highly skilled" immigrants.
>>>>-mass letter mailings from all of us
Yeah.. spam them with emails..
>>>-human chains
This involves same complexity as the rally. so its not an easy task.
>>>-hunger strike?
This will be stupidity. ( I am not calling you stupid, but the idea. so no need to jump on me). Eat your food and live healty and happy. Is GC worth going on hunger strikes and suicide attempts? Thats too much of desperation. You are not from Afghanistan or Kenya right..?
>>>-etc
What else?
Oh yeah.. the "drain stoppers" stuff.. thats again stupid. Thats too much literal comparison to brain drain.
Also note, the flower campaign was dubbed stupid and insane by many before it started working and getting media attention, and eventually proved to be a brilliant idea! So let's keep our mind open to ideas.
jazz
>>>>-sending more flowers
please.. enough of flowers..
>>>>-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
Now you have seen what goes and does not go into a rally. This is a complicated task so it has to be planned, as was the DC one.
>>>-candlelight vigil at congress
This will work if high school students do it. not "highly skilled" immigrants.
>>>>-mass letter mailings from all of us
Yeah.. spam them with emails..
>>>-human chains
This involves same complexity as the rally. so its not an easy task.
>>>-hunger strike?
This will be stupidity. ( I am not calling you stupid, but the idea. so no need to jump on me). Eat your food and live healty and happy. Is GC worth going on hunger strikes and suicide attempts? Thats too much of desperation. You are not from Afghanistan or Kenya right..?
>>>-etc
What else?
Oh yeah.. the "drain stoppers" stuff.. thats again stupid. Thats too much literal comparison to brain drain.
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Just gave my token 2 cents. I'll do flyers on the weekend.
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Senate judiciary hearing witness list has a familier name Roy Beck - our friend from right side. I don't think he intends talk about replacing the word spouse with Partner in INA. So something is going on there.. God I wish I know whats that????
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vin13
01-14 12:54 PM
The Employment Based Immigration section explains how they will make a task force to prevent illegal workers from being exploited. I don't see anything for legal EB workers other than this 5 year thing which will start counting after this law is passed. :mad:
It says 5 years preceding from the date this law is enacted. Does this not mean that they will look 5 years back from the date this law is enacted?
Also i do not see them say it is for illegals only...
I do not think they would make it easier for illegals than legal residents.
I am not very optimistic about this . But i would definately like to see this pass.
It says 5 years preceding from the date this law is enacted. Does this not mean that they will look 5 years back from the date this law is enacted?
Also i do not see them say it is for illegals only...
I do not think they would make it easier for illegals than legal residents.
I am not very optimistic about this . But i would definately like to see this pass.
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07-11 02:25 AM
Here is the comment I posted to the release:
The credit for this flower campaign should rightly go to Immigration Voice, a grass-root advocacy group representing the interest of high-skilled employment based immigrants. Immigration Voice.
The credit for this flower campaign should rightly go to Immigration Voice, a grass-root advocacy group representing the interest of high-skilled employment based immigrants. Immigration Voice.
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bugsbunny
04-21 02:19 PM
Exactly! This person is making her parents go back and forth every six months, but wont consider moving back home and post such stupid questions and asks why don't create a new visa category?? Ask her if she will go meet lawmakers for this??
Please watch your language. Its a valid question. If you and your spouse have good jobs here and children are in school....moving back to support your parents may not be so feasible both economically and also for many other reasons. If you don't have useful and helpful suggestions to relieve the problem then please refrain from making attacks and have respect for others. you don't fully know or understand the person's circumstances
Please watch your language. Its a valid question. If you and your spouse have good jobs here and children are in school....moving back to support your parents may not be so feasible both economically and also for many other reasons. If you don't have useful and helpful suggestions to relieve the problem then please refrain from making attacks and have respect for others. you don't fully know or understand the person's circumstances
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04-08 03:12 PM
Going back might be a good call. But the truth is, no matter how much money you got, how secured you are, the bottom-line is that the call has to come from the individual.
I will share my concern. I was 23 when I moved here and I already spent 10 years of prime life here in this country. After finishing my college, I worked in India for a year and half, and as any young adult I grew up thinking one day, I will change the way life operates in India. There is a system which operates India. It is powerful, normal human like you and I cannot overcome the system. People like Gandhi could, they are willing to sacrifice them self for the best of others. Or you could people like our current politicians who know how to work the system. People like lallu, Jaya, Karunanidhi, Naidu etc, they grew up as a part of the system. For them even when killing someone, they might not feel the remorse. But you and I cannot even bribe without feeling bad, which is good. But the question is how long can you sustain that? I am not 23 anymore; Now, I know what responsibility is all about. I have 2 kids; I don�t know whether I am hard enough to fight the system at this current stage of my life.
There is a famous quote, which states that there is a breaking point for every human, once we are pushed beyond that point, your action does not originate from your brain. In other words you will become part of the system.
For me this is the main concern. When I talk to people here who wants to go back, they say that they will buy a house in some close community and they will live a happy life inside. For me that�s a fools dream. You cannot shut off from others, may be for a month or two, soon you have to face the real world.
So the answer for your question like in this question. How are you going to handle the system in India? I do not believe that things will change. May be in 25 years; Not anytime soon. So until then you have to live a life where in you have to adjust to the system.
I do not have an answer to the question. How will I manage the day to day life? If you know the answer let me know
- ;)
is the answer :-0). Remember in life you have to have an attitude of respecting others, if u think you need to be treated specially cause you have lived in America 10yrs then u would be definitely disappointed. A lot of my friends have relocated to India and I am too early next year. The only answer is attitude.
I will share my concern. I was 23 when I moved here and I already spent 10 years of prime life here in this country. After finishing my college, I worked in India for a year and half, and as any young adult I grew up thinking one day, I will change the way life operates in India. There is a system which operates India. It is powerful, normal human like you and I cannot overcome the system. People like Gandhi could, they are willing to sacrifice them self for the best of others. Or you could people like our current politicians who know how to work the system. People like lallu, Jaya, Karunanidhi, Naidu etc, they grew up as a part of the system. For them even when killing someone, they might not feel the remorse. But you and I cannot even bribe without feeling bad, which is good. But the question is how long can you sustain that? I am not 23 anymore; Now, I know what responsibility is all about. I have 2 kids; I don�t know whether I am hard enough to fight the system at this current stage of my life.
There is a famous quote, which states that there is a breaking point for every human, once we are pushed beyond that point, your action does not originate from your brain. In other words you will become part of the system.
For me this is the main concern. When I talk to people here who wants to go back, they say that they will buy a house in some close community and they will live a happy life inside. For me that�s a fools dream. You cannot shut off from others, may be for a month or two, soon you have to face the real world.
So the answer for your question like in this question. How are you going to handle the system in India? I do not believe that things will change. May be in 25 years; Not anytime soon. So until then you have to live a life where in you have to adjust to the system.
I do not have an answer to the question. How will I manage the day to day life? If you know the answer let me know
- ;)
is the answer :-0). Remember in life you have to have an attitude of respecting others, if u think you need to be treated specially cause you have lived in America 10yrs then u would be definitely disappointed. A lot of my friends have relocated to India and I am too early next year. The only answer is attitude.
sertha1
06-24 03:15 PM
Hi bitzbytz,
How much are you paying and for how many paystubs? Are you planning to go out of country for stamping? I am in a similar situation.
Did you got the visa stamping dates?
Thanks
what do you mean by fake pay stubs, can you please clarify.
I am in process of generating pay stubs for my wife by paying the employer tax...so that she is covered for the un paid H1 period.
Why will this cause problem
How much are you paying and for how many paystubs? Are you planning to go out of country for stamping? I am in a similar situation.
Did you got the visa stamping dates?
Thanks
what do you mean by fake pay stubs, can you please clarify.
I am in process of generating pay stubs for my wife by paying the employer tax...so that she is covered for the un paid H1 period.
Why will this cause problem
anantc
08-19 11:30 PM
Hi,
Anyone have the fax # for TSC center and Format of letter to request Expediate EAD renewal process because of job offer.
Thanks,
anantc
Anyone have the fax # for TSC center and Format of letter to request Expediate EAD renewal process because of job offer.
Thanks,
anantc
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